At the weekend(ish) we had a visit from ![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
minion_of_tevildo. In addition to the production of actual healthy home-made food, this led to the discovery that the minion had never seen the Rankin and Bass cartoon of The Hobbit. (Incidentally, if you've not seen this, I do recommend it, should you have the chance. It lacks a high-point to match the justly (in)famous disco orcs, but is otherwise basically just as so-bad-its-good as their version of "Return of the King".)
Naturally, this oversight was promptly rectified, with the film accompanied by booze, sniggering, and cheerful heckling. But in amongst this, the minion observed that Thranduil looks remarkably like Toad of Toad Hall, and so speculation about equivalent characters for a crossover began. Clearly, given their enmity, Thorin must be the Chief Weasel (with the other weasels representing the general crowd of dwarves and stoats); Bilbo lives in a hole and wants a quiet life, so he's Mole. As for Badger - well, there's a wise-but-grumpy character in The Hobbit, too, and they're even both canonically played by Michael Horden.
Elrond is clearly Pan (who turns up, provides sanctuary in passing, and then vanishes from the narrative), the insulted policeman is almost certainly a Mirkwoodian Spider ("Attacop, indeed!"), and there's the sneaking suspicion that "Smog", themagicmispronounced dragon, is an unsubtle metaphor for the threat to the woodlands from encroaching development and pollution.
Ratty seems worryingly absent, until you consider Gollum's life on the river, and apparent pleasure in "messsssing about in boatses, my precious", after which he just seems worrying.
There are even a couple of cameos from Fred Colon as "Bard the guard" and Nobby Nobbs as The Thrush, who instructsFredBard on shooting the dragon's voonerable spot.
minion_of_tevildo. In addition to the production of actual healthy home-made food, this led to the discovery that the minion had never seen the Rankin and Bass cartoon of The Hobbit. (Incidentally, if you've not seen this, I do recommend it, should you have the chance. It lacks a high-point to match the justly (in)famous disco orcs, but is otherwise basically just as so-bad-its-good as their version of "Return of the King".)Naturally, this oversight was promptly rectified, with the film accompanied by booze, sniggering, and cheerful heckling. But in amongst this, the minion observed that Thranduil looks remarkably like Toad of Toad Hall, and so speculation about equivalent characters for a crossover began. Clearly, given their enmity, Thorin must be the Chief Weasel (with the other weasels representing the general crowd of dwarves and stoats); Bilbo lives in a hole and wants a quiet life, so he's Mole. As for Badger - well, there's a wise-but-grumpy character in The Hobbit, too, and they're even both canonically played by Michael Horden.
Elrond is clearly Pan (who turns up, provides sanctuary in passing, and then vanishes from the narrative), the insulted policeman is almost certainly a Mirkwoodian Spider ("Attacop, indeed!"), and there's the sneaking suspicion that "Smog", the
Ratty seems worryingly absent, until you consider Gollum's life on the river, and apparent pleasure in "messsssing about in boatses, my precious", after which he just seems worrying.
There are even a couple of cameos from Fred Colon as "Bard the guard" and Nobby Nobbs as The Thrush, who instructs
